Comments on: Students claim they were tricked into enrolling http://www.higheredmorning.com/students-claim-they-were-tricked-into-enrolling Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:37:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: KPM http://www.higheredmorning.com/students-claim-they-were-tricked-into-enrolling/comment-page-1#comment-4129 KPM Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:51:13 +0000 http://www.higheredmorning.com/?p=3025#comment-4129 Many people are not aware of the For-Profit Universities. I ended up working (big mistake) for such a for-profit Univeristy not knowing what they really are ( Today I am working for a leading State University). They are a shame to the higher education. For those of you who don't know, these kind of colleges and schools target the poor, vulnerable people that do not know much about colleges. They have a stupid entrance exam any monkey can pass. Many people do not understand about for-profit colleges unless you end up working for them by mistake like me. Do not get them confused with the leading private colleges/universities or Liberal arts colleges. Thought they are private, these schools are all non-profit. The AIU's do not put their profits back to improve the school. Their goal is not to benifit the students. For example the school I worked for spent $18million in one year just for advertising. Their target grouop as they say are the poor, minorities and especially the ghettos. The goal of these colleges like AIU is to get those who qualify for Financial Aid. I know for a fact that the so called degrees they get are useless. They have about 20 "Admission Counselors" who are really sales people. I went through a sales training and there are monthly enrollment goals to meet. Those who don't meet the goals get fired. Therefore; the employees try to meet the target goals by any means. later I found out that most of the employees at these colleges also had no degree or they had a degree from a similar school. They are highly encourage to lie, cheat do whatever to get students to enroll. The students does not receive copies of the paperwork they signed either. They go through an interview questionnaire prepared by psychologists employed by these schools. These schools are the biggest scammers I have ever seen. AIU lost their accreditation recently. Something must be done about these schools. Yes, and the Cadillac thing is a metaphor. DUH! Many people are not aware of the For-Profit Universities. I ended up working (big mistake) for such a for-profit Univeristy not knowing what they really are ( Today I am working for a leading State University). They are a shame to the higher education. For those of you who don’t know, these kind of colleges and schools target the poor, vulnerable people that do not know much about colleges. They have a stupid entrance exam any monkey can pass. Many people do not understand about for-profit colleges unless you end up working for them by mistake like me. Do not get them confused with the leading private colleges/universities or Liberal arts colleges. Thought they are private, these schools are all non-profit. The AIU’s do not put their profits back to improve the school. Their goal is not to benifit the students. For example the school I worked for spent $18million in one year just for advertising. Their target grouop as they say are the poor, minorities and especially the ghettos.
The goal of these colleges like AIU is to get those who qualify for Financial Aid. I know for a fact that the so called degrees they get are useless. They have about 20 “Admission Counselors” who are really sales people. I went through a sales training and there are monthly enrollment goals to meet. Those who don’t meet the goals get fired. Therefore; the employees try to meet the target goals by any means. later I found out that most of the employees at these colleges also had no degree or they had a degree from a similar school. They are highly encourage to lie, cheat do whatever to get students to enroll. The students does not receive copies of the paperwork they signed either. They go through an interview questionnaire prepared by psychologists employed by these schools. These schools are the biggest scammers I have ever seen. AIU lost their accreditation recently. Something must be done about these schools.
Yes, and the Cadillac thing is a metaphor. DUH!

]]> By: Kristie http://www.higheredmorning.com/students-claim-they-were-tricked-into-enrolling/comment-page-1#comment-4122 Kristie Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:01:52 +0000 http://www.higheredmorning.com/?p=3025#comment-4122 To the first couple responses--The students were NOT offered cars! Read what it says. The article says they were "in effect" offered a Cadillac and got a Yugo, i.e. the school represented itself as a Cadillac, a trustworthy and reliable brand. In actuality the school wound up being a less reliable brand. That is at the root of their lawsuit, the school's representation of themselves to their students. While I don't generally agree with students who sue their school post graduation because they can't find a job, I do think these kids have a case...IF they can prove the school did in fact falsify information to the accreditation committee and inflate employment rates. If that turns out to be the case, then this is in fact false advertising and is setting up a situation where students who wouldn't normally have come to this school might go. I for one did weigh the post-graduation statistics of my school when I chose it and obviously the accreditation was important. If I found out my school was wrongly accredited or that they tampered with the statistics then I would be ripping mad as well (although I'm sure all schools play with the statistics a bit to produce the strongest effect). But once again, these kids did not actually receive cars. That was just poor phrasing in the article. To the first couple responses–The students were NOT offered cars! Read what it says. The article says they were “in effect” offered a Cadillac and got a Yugo, i.e. the school represented itself as a Cadillac, a trustworthy and reliable brand. In actuality the school wound up being a less reliable brand. That is at the root of their lawsuit, the school’s representation of themselves to their students.

While I don’t generally agree with students who sue their school post graduation because they can’t find a job, I do think these kids have a case…IF they can prove the school did in fact falsify information to the accreditation committee and inflate employment rates. If that turns out to be the case, then this is in fact false advertising and is setting up a situation where students who wouldn’t normally have come to this school might go. I for one did weigh the post-graduation statistics of my school when I chose it and obviously the accreditation was important. If I found out my school was wrongly accredited or that they tampered with the statistics then I would be ripping mad as well (although I’m sure all schools play with the statistics a bit to produce the strongest effect).

But once again, these kids did not actually receive cars. That was just poor phrasing in the article.

]]> By: JT http://www.higheredmorning.com/students-claim-they-were-tricked-into-enrolling/comment-page-1#comment-4119 JT Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:25:20 +0000 http://www.higheredmorning.com/?p=3025#comment-4119 Ummm, to the folks who previously posted--it was a metaphor, they did not receive cars. Did you all happen to go to American InterContinental University? Ummm, to the folks who previously posted–it was a metaphor, they did not receive cars. Did you all happen to go to American InterContinental University?

]]> By: Ju http://www.higheredmorning.com/students-claim-they-were-tricked-into-enrolling/comment-page-1#comment-4112 Ju Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:40:04 +0000 http://www.higheredmorning.com/?p=3025#comment-4112 never heard of a school offering cars before, but if that's what they promised, that's what they should deliver. You're not going to get that much for a Yugo, and I wonder if they promised a new Cadillac or used. My brother has an used Caddy and it breaks down a lot, I'd definitely want a new one -- and then i'd sell the gas-guzzler. also, were the students promise one Caddy between them all? instead of each? that would suck! never heard of a school offering cars before, but if that’s what they promised, that’s what they should deliver. You’re not going to get that much for a Yugo, and I wonder if they promised a new Cadillac or used. My brother has an used Caddy and it breaks down a lot, I’d definitely want a new one — and then i’d sell the gas-guzzler.
also, were the students promise one Caddy between them all? instead of each? that would suck!

]]> By: silly http://www.higheredmorning.com/students-claim-they-were-tricked-into-enrolling/comment-page-1#comment-4111 silly Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:07:07 +0000 http://www.higheredmorning.com/?p=3025#comment-4111 This is not what education represents. We are letting people file lawsuits because the school promised them a Cadillac. Did you enroll for a degree or to ride around in luxury. I am suprised the students recieved a car. I took that statement as a metaphor. You could trade this Yugo in for a Cadillac when you graduate and can afford the payments let alone the maintenance on the car. This is not what education represents. We are letting people file lawsuits because the school promised them a Cadillac. Did you enroll for a degree or to ride around in luxury. I am suprised the students recieved a car. I took that statement as a metaphor. You could trade this Yugo in for a Cadillac when you graduate and can afford the payments let alone the maintenance on the car.

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